>> it's politico's world, we just live in it. those are your only choices. look, i think we know from his govr nance and his votes that he is not with mitch mcconnell, he would be almost with anyone in the caucus other than mitch mcconnell. >> i don't think so. i think a majority of the caucus would behave exactly like mcconnell if they were leader. so he would be against, you know, all but i don't know, michael e. if leader. >> there's no one -- the tea party caucus in the senate is ted cruz, mike lee and rand paul. that's it. that's why they have to go to tortilla coast, the restaurant off the hill. that's true, by the way, folk, and have meetings with the house republicans. the guacamole there, i've got no problem with it. but they have these little meetings because that's their leverage. as you pointed out in the now infamous question, lawrence, what pudding, sir? what pudding, what pudding has obama care been repealed. they have those meeting.